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hi everybody I'm bill burns yeah nancy

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burns here I work in future theater and

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you know we like to listen to mmm radio

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on sunday nights at 9pm at 9pm what

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easier 00 the best network on the whole

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now get ready to have your radio go

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welcome everybody to paying radio

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tonight is Sunday jun 7 2015 got uh hell

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of a good show tonight I'm here with my

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co-host Ken Storch and mr. ken we're

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gonna welcome Sean Kudrow tonight and

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talking about his research in UFOs in

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cloaking UFOs in storms a little bit of

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harp we're gonna go in every direction

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but welcome to the show can hey I think

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our listeners are going to find this

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show really fascinating i know i am i'm

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looking forward to it so it should be a

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lot of fun entertaining and educational

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yep very cool well hold on a sec let me

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turn off my iphone that probably just

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did a ding ding on the air okay I didn't

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hear it yeah there we go there's many

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and you home you're doing your yard work

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doing homework just throw us on it's

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pretty cool stuff and I'd like to do one

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shutout to our new show tonight

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professor Eric Williams is I welcome to

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the network tonight he did his show

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called psychologies outer limits so he's

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going to get deep into the psychology of

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human beings and add a touch of

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paranormal on occasion so that's going

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to be that's going to be a great

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addition to the network so Ken you got

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any shoutouts there well I do George and

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Patti hi I want to say hello to Doug and

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Christie Doug and Kathy Duggan's Cindy

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local man I'm never going to keep going

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straight but I want to go have a shout

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out to all three of those couples and

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also to the Oklahoma UFO paranormal team

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and I just want to remind our listeners

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that in August we're going to be putting

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on a seminar going to explore some of

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the evidence and some of the cases that

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we have investigated I think people are

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going to find it extremely interesting

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Wow there you go there you go that's

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awesome we got some shoutouts to we

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we got Kevin in north mankato minnesota

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a little hometown uh upper midwest

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friend there and we got duggan Christie

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Schultz of course 155 miles downwind

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from Ken's storage they said yeah it's a

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good thing you're downwind probably 20

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that's great so yeah so that that's

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that's yeah you know that's good but you

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know it the network is growing where

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we're welcoming another new show called

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supernatural girls they're going to be

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on Wednesdays I believe at seven pm

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eastern so Wednesday's Wednesday's show

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slot is going to actually be full very

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full three shows will roll so a lot a

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lot of new shows come in can I mean

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where the network it's shown a lot of

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interest from other shows I mean it's

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good stuff yeah good yeah and you know I

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we have a bunch of good listeners to

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they they come up with good show ideas

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and I want to have a special thanks out

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to Lorna and the pig up there she comes

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up with some great guests and great

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ideas thanks Lorna yep and I'm Lorna

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Lorna and adrian lee will be on at the

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end of the month on the twenty-eighth

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talking about the Minnesota Paracon

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which I'm actually going to hit the

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second half of this you know and i'll be

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able to see Kevin roundels speak and a

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few others but I'll get to meet runner

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in person I've chatted with her for a

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few years here but it'd be nice to see

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you know faces with my voices and emails

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instead of you know this electronic

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communication all the time right exactly

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and you'll enjoy Lorna she's a

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sweetheart yeah Lorna Lorna has been a

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long member MUFON you know they have

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their own but yeah good stuff and they

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have a lot of good Minnesota cases over

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there Minnesota I believe he has one of

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the longest um they've been meeting

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longer than any other state and move on

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so I think it's a consistent 40 years

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they've had meetings every week well

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obviously every week and that part of

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the country seems to be a hotbed over

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the years of our review and T flying

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saucer core sightings and stuff yeah the

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only thing that gets us up north Canada

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Old Man Winter you know we're indoors

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the reports go way down easier to manage

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the case caseloads and move on when I'm

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winners here but we got three today

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already in Wisconsin and it's like oh

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boy we're getting backed up but we got a

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new investigator are my friend Kevin's

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mount Kevin Maliki's he's the founder of

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the northern Wisconsin Paranormal

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Society so he's a new member of move

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funds so we're up to three investigators

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in deal out with the application Casey

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handled a case yeah the case looks

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really big right now so it's we're

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getting back live but we'll get through

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it we'll get through it well tonight

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Sean guttural I'm gonna tell everybody a

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Sean personal history or he was born and

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raised in New Orleans before returning

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to New Orleans in 2004 he lived in Baton

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Rouge Brooklyn and New Jersey City ah he

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started realizing that there was

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something going above up above the skies

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in the summer 2011 after noticing

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strange weather patterns it's gonna be a

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little bit weather pattern related to

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tonight he began recording videos what

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he saw first of uncooked craft on August

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2011 on jun 2nd 2012 he released his

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first cause his 9 part series then he

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teamed up with many others around the

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world documenting his phenomena so it

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songs more or less that sean has a team

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of individuals you know uh working

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together which is great you know more

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eyes in the sky you know will work

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indefinitely oh yeah absolutely the more

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people that you have skin in the sky the

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more chances to more chipper ought to

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get as far as reports in more

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information absolutely that's why you

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got to keep an eye to the sky folks yeah

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yeah exactly the next 10 parts came soon

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after the series is now over 6 not over

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six hours long it's taken over 15,000

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photos and hundreds of hours of video

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and some not even reviewed yet he's

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doing about eight radio interviews on

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Roxy Lopez Steve travesty Dave Schrader

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Renee Barnett are very ill night vision

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radio and john b wells his youtube

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channel has over 30 for all three four

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hundred subscribers on the charade love

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his crime and over 400,000 total views

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he's also scheduled to be working on an

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upcoming upcoming documentary ribbons in

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the sky with Jose s camellia probably

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something to do with chem trails hmm and

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they live in the sky so welcome Sean to

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the shoulder we're happy to have you

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tonight Thank You Omar good beer it's

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awesome to have you I I did here I've

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have heard your work on Renee Barnett

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show on night-vision radio that's that's

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why that's why first surgery and I

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didn't like I got to have this guy on my

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show it's quite interesting no rich yeah

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sean is is there a point in your life

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when you first got the interest in UFOs

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was there something it was this in the

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childhood it happened or had any

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sightings yourself nah not really um

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this is pretty new to me I didn't see

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UFOs and that I used to watch all those

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shows in the eighties and nineties that

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would come on unsolved mysteries and in

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search of and stuff like that that's

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really where my interest was for many

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years and the only things that really

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seen up to that point in 93 on a road

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we're going to his brother's bachelor

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party and we saw like an orange fireball

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shoot down the middle of the highway

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that lasted about two seconds and that

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was the end of that um I've seen an

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entity but that's probably completely

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unrelated about 91 but uh yeah I wasn't

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really into it um not as much as I am

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pal but uh yeah it started about four

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fact went to June now and it was it was

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it was noticing weather patterns and

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being a New Orleanian we pay attention

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to the weather there a more weird stuff

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happens down right and you know one

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being Hurricane Katrina I went through

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that uh I was also one of the people who

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witnessed 911 because when I lives in

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Jersey City I rented a condo for the

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view of the Trade Center and everything

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else but this stuff takes the cake this

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this is way beyond anything I could have

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imagined it just completely wild and

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hopefully a lot of your listeners have

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scarred some of this it seems that a lot

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of people have seen things up there that

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they've questioned but never knew I knew

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where to turn or where to find answers

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and I put it this way I've how to take

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bowl of people who let's say believe in

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people who have actually seen a UFO I

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think you get you know a certain amount

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of hands but in terms of the strange

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stuff in the clouds I think a lot of

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people have seen this and as I said just

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didn't know where to go and I get

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messages on my youtube channel all the

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time saying thanks for putting this out

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there my family thought I was crazy you

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know I've been seeing this stuff for a

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while and you know so yeah there's

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there's a interest out there but um the

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information is fairly new and thank god

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it's finally coming out and it shows

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like this or bring them to the forefront

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so yeah thanks again hey check on these

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objects these craft that you're seeing

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there's several shapes Tom the first one

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most typical of the triangular shape

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ones there are some elongated once there

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tube like it kind of like a submarine

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and away with an engine on the back and

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able to pick out of a pyramid once there

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are pyramidal craft up there as well

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that's the general cloud crap there are

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you know fearful and most like that

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well but for the most part it's the

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triangular ones that I pick up on you

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the triangular ones are the most

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difficult why I'm most typical uh I'm

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the most typical almost typical okay

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yeah yeah okay I'm sorry I misunderstood

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you okay oh yeah the thighs at least i'd

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say at least fifty percent of what's up

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there but you know he's trying to look

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laughs yeah how do you how do you go it

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you associate him with cloud is there a

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specific cloud formation or a certain

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type of cloud that seems to be the

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common thread or it is they're not just

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whatever its there's clouds in the sky

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ah there is and it's something that I've

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really only stated in the last few

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months or so and it's just been having a

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look at these things for years and years

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and years and going through the videos

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and I would say that the lowest ones

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that come in these cumulus clouds are

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all generated by triangles they all are

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and you know it's pretty mind-blowing

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it's not something that I thought I

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would have come across in the beginning

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um but it really seems to be the case

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and even today I could have stood

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outside my backyard and photograph these

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things all day long because there they

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were popping out of the clouds left and

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right but again I've got so many

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pictures and so much info my hard drives

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are filling up I don't have the time to

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do it so I put out as much as I can

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really um at this point and hopefully

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you know one day I'll be able to take

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the time off and go back makes more

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videos and explains other things but

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right now after the series is probably

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more like eight hours now I just kind of

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odd lost count a lost count of the

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amount of photograph that's probably up

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toward about 20,000 right now and so

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that means I've really got I've got

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thousands of photographs of these times

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and so that's why I'm are you now with

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it but my favorite thing to do now is

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like you I guess

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I will take the time and photograph

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lightning so there's some really

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interesting things come out of that as

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well now Shawn with the number of all

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the number of cloaked objects in the sky

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do you think do you think the government

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is you know of course the government

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knows they're up there do you think they

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know they're up there and they're not

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telling us absolutely yep they know all

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about it and I think they have for quite

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a long time and initially when I started

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taking these things out I'd pick out one

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one day and another one two days later

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and it was a matter of like fine-tuning

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your eyes a friend of mine put it that

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way to really hone in on what to look

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for so today I could have gone out in

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photographs you know 50 of them but in

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the beginning blend especially that the

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first time I saw one partially unclothed

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there's about half in and half out I was

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thinking military and I thought military

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for a long time one of the reason being

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is that it's easier to accept that i'm

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looking at a cloak military craft then a

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cloak ET craft and as i said i really

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have minutes of the whole UFO thing of

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my life but it got me thinking all right

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but it was a number of crafts especially

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nowadays that i pick up on that I can

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pretty soundly say that there's

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thousands if not millions of them up

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there currently and could be American

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government produce data monograph maybe

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maybe maybe so but maybe not so I've

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kind of shifted my opinions over the

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years so I've gone from strictly

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military do it's probably actually both

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military été interdimensional and mix of

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those Sean you describe a very busy

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airspace I'm envisioning I've never seen

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one no uncloaked or whatever I'm

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envisioning that you said there's

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hundreds if not thousands of these craft

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coming and going constantly if not

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millions there's millions yeah because

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if I can stand up not backyard this

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little slice of the sky and pick out and

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at one

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I'm you know you just multiply that

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across the globe and there's a whole

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bunch more yeah so yes the numbers have

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really kind of freaked me out and it was

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really connecting with people around the

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world to do this as well because I

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thought it was initially initially I

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thought it was let's say the weather

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machine if we've heard that term and of

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like well I guess this is some kind of

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device to fort hurricanes and they're

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using it over New Orleans and yeah we

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haven't had much hurricane activity

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since Katrina really um and that was

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what 2005 though that's what I thought

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initially but again there's so many of

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them it's it's one of the other Pope but

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yeah there's a whole bunch and I guess

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my question to you I do have a opinion

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as to why their cloaking is to hide it

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from us are they are they hiding from

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each other okay I just I just picture

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all these ships Ullom back and forth up

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and in our atmosphere and if they're

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cloaked they're hiding from us i guess i

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thinkin yeah yeah yeah if they are eg if

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they are interdimensional we are picking

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up hints of them and it's probably up in

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the range of like the temperature range

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when it comes to the visual spectrum we

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as humans can only see from about 360

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nanometers to about 700 nanometers in

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the full spectrum anything below that is

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UV and then the next range up from about

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seven hundred up he started getting into

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the near infrared and then the true

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infrared spectrum I don't have any

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cameras I could pick up through heat

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spectrums but I do have a couple of

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infrared cameras that are near infrared

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and not only ever picked up these

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triangular craft on there a lot better

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using that technology but I've been able

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to pick up on the skyfish as well and

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it's one of the reasons that Jose just

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me and I have gotten together oh you

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know we have picked up on Sky fish right

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you

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in red and infrared ray so yeah we

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there's there's a whole bunch of things

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going on that we just just can't see and

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it's using technology to pick it out and

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get on the computer screen and having a

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look and seeing what's really out there

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I think there's a whole universe or

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other dimensions around us but we're

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only now really discovered Sean I'm

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picturing like the Jetsons with with

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ships buzzing all over the sky so what

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exactly are what do you exactly do you

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think they're doing up there watching us

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testing yeah well possibly we could be

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you know the ultimate Truman Show look

427
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at it that way the ultimate reality show

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all right for their enrichment but

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initially when I thought you know it was

430
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all note sorry I'm like this is this is

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the ultimate surveillance technique and

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I do definitely believe that they're

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cloaked any gravity craft up there that

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can you know surveyed me or whoever else

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and you wouldn't even know it now what

436
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you do is just put one of these press up

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there using any of the various cloaking

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techniques and have a camera on there

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and yeah you can you can survey whatever

440
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and nobody would have a clue ah the

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other option is that they've been here

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the whole time these are the Watchers or

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the yeah the gods look a little G these

444
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are possibly the Anunnaki who loves

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never going anywhere the whole time and

446
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I've just been up there taking care of

447
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us ah or if they don't wants a curveball

448
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at their leisure could very well be and

449
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so really the people who studied us

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we're beyond what is up there yeah

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there's a whole bunch of things up there

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we're on to who we're trying to figure

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out who's putting on the show and it's

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really starting to lean to not only you

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know military brass but possibly

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interdimensional easy craft as well do

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you think any of these craft are ours of

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do you think you've caught a few of our

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craft cloaking yes I do

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and I'll tell you why and the first I

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guess it was the fall of 2011 I didn't

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have a lot of time to do this kind of

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stuff I was working on what i do is i

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illustrate children's books and i had

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three books on my plate a long time and

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i had to get them all finished at the

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end of november so they can get printed

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and shipped and feedback in town for

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black friday so i did a lot of reporting

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at the time but once those books were up

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and ship i finally had a little extra

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time to look into all right hey what are

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the correlations out there where can I

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draw lines from what I'm seeing to

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information that's already out on the

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web or elsewhere and I was able to come

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across firms for some craft that just

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happened to line up with my nicknames

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for the craft I called one like a

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whiskey bat there's another that was

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like a mantis shape and I did come

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across military specifications nicknames

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for their vehicles called bats in Nanta

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another one called gas pipe and stuff

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like that but now I quickly learned that

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it's kind of a dead end road trying to

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figure that out because it's always a

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trick they're not going to tell you the

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name they're going to switch the name

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and you'll have no idea and you'll never

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see it in secret documents so I kind of

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gave up on that route for a while

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however when that was november 2011

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december 2011 i do have 3d skills and i

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started building what I saw up above you

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know I drawn some sketches of whatever

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and I said well I've got some 3d skills

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might as well build is in 3d so I

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started building a smaller craft and

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over time I was able to pick up on the

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larger craft because they're actually

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harder to find them a smaller craft the

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smaller craft have a really tight

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footprint and easy to see the big ones

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are so big that you know they take up a

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good portion of the sky really I used to

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garment putting on your HD glasses

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didn't try to take them out but i had to

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general shapes at the time one was like

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a shovel nose shape trash

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kind of triangular but rounded at the

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front and there was another one that I

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picked up on so many times I ended up

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making a model of that one as well that

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wasn't triangular it was more like a

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like a Concord in a way short like a

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kind of like the sr-71 and I couldn't

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decide which one I was looking at am I

519
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looking at both I've got no idea hmm but

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I'm actually august eight 2011 when I

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photograph this one and saw it I invited

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over well I decided at the time to have

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three friends that I could die votes to

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and get there if their take on it you

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know was a Lutheran online what's going

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on pretty smart people so go on August

527
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night I had two of them over woman's in

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Michigan she could make it obviously and

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so one of them will call her Nancy and

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Nancy's been with me you know from the

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beginning on this and she was polite

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enough and trying to come over and check

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out my work and after two hours she's

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like I just don't want anymore but she

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always kept in mind I was always trying

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to bounce things off of her she lives

537
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:10,260
right near what we call here Belle chase

538
00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:15,330
Naval Air Station and that is kind of a

539
00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:18,270
little-known Naval Air Station about 50

540
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:22,500
miles south of here and she had seen

541
00:24:28,399 --> 00:24:25,980
some things herself but one day in

542
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,409
particular she saw something when she

543
00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:31,440
was driving by lies enough out of the

544
00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:34,230
base and into the clouds and I tried to

545
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:35,940
have her explain it and you know she

546
00:24:39,649 --> 00:24:37,289
even have a chance to take a picture

547
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:39,659
that was fine I said listen come over

548
00:24:45,260 --> 00:24:42,570
tomorrow and have a look at this 3d

549
00:24:48,140 --> 00:24:45,270
model that I built i want i want you to

550
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:48,150
see if that's what you saw so she came

551
00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:51,059
over the next day and i gave her a piece

552
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:53,340
of paper and I said draw what you saw

553
00:24:57,169 --> 00:24:55,650
and before I gave her a pen she took her

554
00:25:00,680 --> 00:24:57,179
fingers and she drew like an upside down

555
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:00,690
v I said well what's that she goes

556
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:03,770
that's the v-shaped beans on the bottom

557
00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:06,690
the last detail I put into the 3d

558
00:25:12,919 --> 00:25:09,870
modeling with it the two vc eight beams

559
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:12,929
on the bottom so i pretty much knows a

560
00:25:15,020 --> 00:25:13,650
match

561
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:15,030
that's really interesting so I showed

562
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,450
the model the 3d model shizz your

563
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:20,880
clothes it's not a hundred percent it's

564
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:23,940
probably about 75% there but you know

565
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:25,140
the wings were just a little bit

566
00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:27,690
different and so on so forth so like you

567
00:25:33,650 --> 00:25:30,680
know thanks Nancy that that's great info

568
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:33,660
but really what blood at home was when

569
00:25:39,140 --> 00:25:36,720
darker released a picture of what they

570
00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:39,150
call the blacks list you came out about

571
00:25:44,270 --> 00:25:42,030
I'd say less than a year ago I'll look

572
00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:44,280
at it my setup that's that's a pretty

573
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:46,590
good match i sent it to nancy and i said

574
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:48,450
is this what you saw coming out of the

575
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:51,450
base cloaked and then uncloak and she

576
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:52,830
wrote back immediately said as a matter

577
00:25:58,370 --> 00:25:56,250
of fact yeah that's it yes oh I'm pretty

578
00:26:02,960 --> 00:25:58,380
sure that the black Swift is any gravity

579
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:02,970
in cloak and is in use hey Shawn when

580
00:26:07,790 --> 00:26:05,850
new you've used the term cloak is that

581
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,800
that I'm perceiving that the craft

582
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:09,840
becomes invisible but yet they're not

583
00:26:17,030 --> 00:26:13,410
invisible right yeah there's um there's

584
00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:17,040
different ways to pick them out whether

585
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:18,360
we're talking about the military ones

586
00:26:25,820 --> 00:26:23,070
are the easy ones in photographs and

587
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:25,830
with regular cameras they show up

588
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:28,410
slightly darker than the background so

589
00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:29,970
if at the blue sky and there's one

590
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:31,830
sitting up there you're just going to

591
00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:34,650
pick up just a hint of it what's great

592
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:37,470
about the infrared technology that I use

593
00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:40,710
is that that shows up that effect which

594
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:43,590
I call like a tinted tinted plate effect

595
00:26:48,290 --> 00:26:46,170
where it's just slightly darker it shows

596
00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:48,300
up a lot better in infrared and a lot

597
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:50,580
better when one the craft is in front of

598
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:53,520
a white cloud it's a much easier to see

599
00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:57,720
so their technology is is pretty darn

600
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:00,360
good but it's not perfect and there's

601
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:02,610
ways of finding them and in the

602
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,500
beginning I would wait for you know

603
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:06,240
sunsets or get up early in the morning

604
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:09,570
and videotape Sun rises because the

605
00:27:12,980 --> 00:27:11,010
light is so strong and there's a lot of

606
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:12,990
contrast and the shadows are just all

607
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:16,410
over the place so that was my I am my

608
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:20,190
favorite time to do capture but nowadays

609
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:22,650
lego saying today i can go out and catch

610
00:27:27,529 --> 00:27:24,510
them all day long as long as there's a

611
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:27,539
good blue sky behind it and it's not hey

612
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:29,159
stout and you're looking at these white

613
00:27:34,729 --> 00:27:32,129
cumulus clouds coming in you will start

614
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:34,739
to see them popping out sides and people

615
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,919
are just not paying attention it's once

616
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:39,600
you get used to it it's um it's pretty

617
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:42,570
easy and that's the other thing once you

618
00:27:46,099 --> 00:27:43,769
get used to it there's not going back

619
00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:46,109
you can't unsee it like taking the red

620
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,320
pill oh so it sounds like the weather

621
00:27:56,779 --> 00:27:52,080
patterns you know have to be d in a

622
00:27:58,460 --> 00:27:56,789
certain order for you to see these yeah

623
00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:58,470
like they're on the winter here it was

624
00:28:04,909 --> 00:28:02,159
either clear skies or it was completely

625
00:28:06,859 --> 00:28:04,919
overcast and it was you know pretty hard

626
00:28:08,509 --> 00:28:06,869
to see it's really a partly cloudy day

627
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:08,519
where you've got space in between the

628
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:09,809
clouds that you can really pick them out

629
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,080
hey Sean do you think they may be

630
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:14,460
manipulating the weather patterns to fit

631
00:28:22,009 --> 00:28:20,700
their pattern their cloaking devices do

632
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:22,019
you think they're influencing the

633
00:28:28,489 --> 00:28:25,409
weather yeah yeah in fact I think

634
00:28:31,099 --> 00:28:28,499
there's possibility that what we've been

635
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,109
told but the weather is not actually the

636
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:34,080
case because so many of these seem like

637
00:28:39,979 --> 00:28:37,769
they're actually making clouds as

638
00:28:41,509 --> 00:28:39,989
opposed to hiding within clouds I think

639
00:28:42,739 --> 00:28:41,519
the military ones hide within the clouds

640
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:42,749
and I think these other ones are

641
00:28:48,529 --> 00:28:46,049
actually making the clouds that's why

642
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:48,539
I'm looking at it nowadays but in the

643
00:28:54,589 --> 00:28:52,409
beginning back to summer 2011 but even

644
00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:54,599
before saw the first one I realized that

645
00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:56,279
the weather wasn't right around here I

646
00:29:00,859 --> 00:28:58,049
mean the storms that would usually come

647
00:29:02,810 --> 00:29:00,869
up in the afternoon that would come up

648
00:29:05,379 --> 00:29:02,820
from the Gulf and move north and we'd

649
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:05,389
get you know a good shower around 2pm

650
00:29:10,369 --> 00:29:08,460
that wasn't happening and in my

651
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:10,379
immediate area there was a drought over

652
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:14,700
that summer but about 15 miles south all

653
00:29:17,989 --> 00:29:16,470
of all the songs that were coming up

654
00:29:20,779 --> 00:29:17,999
would get stopped it was like an

655
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:20,789
invisible force and once those storms

656
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:22,769
will hit that invisible line they would

657
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:25,769
just go from green to dark red and expel

658
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:28,950
all of their energy at one time and I've

659
00:29:32,749 --> 00:29:30,779
got a friend who lives on that line and

660
00:29:34,669 --> 00:29:32,759
she was losing power like almost every

661
00:29:35,989 --> 00:29:34,679
day because I'm the Lightning coming

662
00:29:37,999 --> 00:29:35,999
down because of the hail and everything

663
00:29:40,820 --> 00:29:38,009
else that's one of those things that

664
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:40,830
made me look at radar because you know

665
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:41,520
being

666
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:44,760
one spot here in New Orleans looking up

667
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:45,930
of like well there's going to be

668
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,220
different ways of looking at this maybe

669
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:48,960
I could find them on radar maybe maybe

670
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:51,300
that'll tell me something maybe I can

671
00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:53,010
look at satellite photographs which is

672
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:54,360
another thing i downloaded and that

673
00:30:00,320 --> 00:29:58,050
really showed me a lot at the time it

674
00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:00,330
was unbelievable and a little bit too

675
00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:02,400
much for me to take in so expect the

676
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:04,800
massage for a while but in terms of

677
00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:07,200
radar that gave away a lot of things and

678
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:10,740
that's what HAARP comes in so there's

679
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:13,410
definite weather control around at least

680
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:16,110
New Orleans in the area around here and

681
00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:18,330
I've been able to pick up on their

682
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:19,860
little Harpe waves and their their

683
00:30:25,130 --> 00:30:22,470
substations and how they split the

684
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:25,140
storms and aggravate the storms and all

685
00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:28,140
kinds of stuff so yeah it's going on

686
00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:30,870
almost off on a daily basis and I

687
00:30:35,380 --> 00:30:32,790
recorded the radar and put into videos

688
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:35,390
and got Apple got them up online and

689
00:30:40,670 --> 00:30:37,770
it's a matter of Cena just over and over

690
00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:40,680
and over and yeah it's definitely taken

691
00:30:45,170 --> 00:30:43,350
place okay yeah that that's great you

692
00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:45,180
know what we'll get back into some harp

693
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:47,460
here after the break thing Sean you're

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697
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:56,370
cloaking and maybe a little Anunnaki

698
00:31:00,650 --> 00:30:58,050
later so hang in to everybody we'll be

699
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guests sean guter all talking about his

764
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:45,470
UFO research in cloaking I he's findings

765
00:34:50,139 --> 00:34:47,090
object in the sky and cloud lightning

766
00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:50,149
storms it's great stuff and I got a few

767
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:52,550
more shout outs here we have the awesome

768
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:54,770
Dean rigored he's always listening on

769
00:34:59,050 --> 00:34:57,170
the south coast of England near Brighton

770
00:35:01,500 --> 00:34:59,060
he says ayran rocks keep an eye in the

771
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:01,510
sky guys and girls there you go can and

772
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,160
we have Marilyn Carlson she said she's

773
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:07,280
here lurking in the bushes can I don't

774
00:35:12,490 --> 00:35:09,230
know that's frightening that is right

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and then we got our friend Craig peel

776
00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:14,690
his says absolutely nothing like Iran

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been listing two years in Yorkshire

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England thanks for your time and effort

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to transmit so thank you everybody for

780
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listening yeah absolutely her fits great

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to hear no it is and of course on the

782
00:35:29,350 --> 00:35:27,800
break we we have some of the best topic

783
00:35:31,540 --> 00:35:29,360
discussion and ken brought up a great

784
00:35:33,220 --> 00:35:31,550
question i'm in a segue to can hear to

785
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:33,230
as sean a question a good question he

786
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:35,230
came up with i'm rich go ahead ken yeah

787
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:37,970
what what we were talking about during

788
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:40,040
the break and sean and i got into

789
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:42,410
discussion is that that technology of

790
00:35:47,650 --> 00:35:45,680
cloaking is the ultimate form of

791
00:35:50,050 --> 00:35:47,660
camouflage and the military is heavily

792
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:50,060
involved in it and I was telling Sean

793
00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:52,730
that there's a army military base down

794
00:35:59,020 --> 00:35:55,550
here just one hunter so miles south of

795
00:36:01,330 --> 00:35:59,030
my location and they were developing a

796
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:01,340
cloaking shield for tanks and armored

797
00:36:06,210 --> 00:36:04,970
vehicles and so it you know it's not

798
00:36:08,220 --> 00:36:06,220
like

799
00:36:11,099 --> 00:36:08,230
you know this is beyond the realm of

800
00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:11,109
fantasy the ability to cloak a airship

801
00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:13,960
of some sorts because that's you know we

802
00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:16,840
saw stealth technology at the first Gulf

803
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:19,480
War and ultimately to be able to cloak

804
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:21,690
in stealth at the same time would be a

805
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:26,530
hell of a weapon okay and that's where

806
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:27,970
we were going with it and the question i

807
00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:30,570
had for sean is that I think a lot

808
00:36:36,450 --> 00:36:33,820
military is really a lot more evolved on

809
00:36:40,650 --> 00:36:36,460
this technology than I think we realize

810
00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:40,660
what you think John I think the standard

811
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:42,670
answer of yeah they're at least 40 years

812
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:44,170
ahead of where we think they are is

813
00:36:50,510 --> 00:36:48,340
actually true and like you said it the

814
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:50,520
perfect time it's steal from camouflaged

815
00:36:57,570 --> 00:36:54,490
over the years camouflage was developed

816
00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:57,580
I think the Germans fallschirmjager had

817
00:37:01,700 --> 00:36:59,530
the first camouflage clothing to blend

818
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:01,710
in you know they painted their planes

819
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:04,690
green on top so you can see from the air

820
00:37:08,220 --> 00:37:06,580
they painted in silver or white on the

821
00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:08,230
bottom so you couldn't see him from

822
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:10,540
below and that's where you know where I

823
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:12,970
really started so i guess the ultimate

824
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:15,540
camouflage was the ultimate goal the

825
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:19,750
it's a pretty good trick so you like had

826
00:37:23,339 --> 00:37:21,460
mentioned over the break and I was in

827
00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:23,349
grad school I was taking a graphics

828
00:37:28,109 --> 00:37:25,540
course and there were stories that were

829
00:37:30,329 --> 00:37:28,119
coming out online about Japanese

830
00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:30,339
students that were building these these

831
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:32,380
cloaks and they were like just a piece

832
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:34,450
of cloth and they could hold it in front

833
00:37:39,660 --> 00:37:36,730
of themselves and it would project what

834
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:39,670
was behind them and even at that time

835
00:37:44,070 --> 00:37:42,070
I'm thinking using the Japanese students

836
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:44,080
are doing this but what if the military

837
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,440
had oh yeah yeah and then over the last

838
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,599
few years people can look this up it's

839
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:51,520
easy to go to youtube and look up

840
00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:55,570
British mo be cloaked tank and that

841
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:57,369
should bring you to it and there's

842
00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:00,640
actually released it the information out

843
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:02,200
there and it's got panels on the side

844
00:38:06,329 --> 00:38:03,970
where I can change colors it can change

845
00:38:08,339 --> 00:38:06,339
temperatures and it can blend into the

846
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:08,349
environment it can make itself look like

847
00:38:13,410 --> 00:38:10,960
a car which was actually shown you know

848
00:38:15,150 --> 00:38:13,420
in the video on top of that well we

849
00:38:17,339 --> 00:38:15,160
didn't talk about on the break was a

850
00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:17,349
recent video that came out from

851
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:20,140
so-called insurgents I want to say

852
00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:22,450
Afghanistan but they could have could be

853
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:26,350
a rock but they took video of a cloaked

854
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:29,410
US soldier who had a cloak uniform on

855
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:32,020
and he's running into a tank that came

856
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:34,750
to pick him up and you can only see him

857
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:37,270
at the very end when he gets in front of

858
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:39,580
the tank and you can see the outline

859
00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:42,130
silhouettes of a figure climbing and no

860
00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:46,270
the top turret pretty interesting hey is

861
00:38:50,190 --> 00:38:48,340
it is interesting and I just want to

862
00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:50,200
point to something I was making a note

863
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:53,950
here in my in my journal if you will

864
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:58,240
that back in the 50s and 60s and MJ I

865
00:39:01,980 --> 00:38:59,680
think you're aware of this that there

866
00:39:06,030 --> 00:39:01,990
were a number of investigations that had

867
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:06,040
been done by MUFON and it was one of the

868
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,050
aspects of it was that only certain

869
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:10,000
people in a crowd of let's say there's

870
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:12,610
20 people maybe only two or three were

871
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,510
able to see the ship you okay and that

872
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:18,880
one of the theories was put forward was

873
00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:22,000
that if it if you've got a view let's

874
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:25,000
say on the side view of it you might be

875
00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:26,710
able to pick out some lines like you

876
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:28,870
said and then you're I would train and

877
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:30,250
you would see the ship whereas other

878
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:31,990
people would look at it and they

879
00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:33,370
wouldn't it would be invisible to them

880
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:38,470
so it it makes sense you know that yeah

881
00:39:44,190 --> 00:39:42,190
yeah yeah I'll talk about I want to

882
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:44,200
mention an article like you know about

883
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:46,330
two months ago and it talked about

884
00:39:50,490 --> 00:39:48,130
twenty five percent of the people have

885
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:50,500
what they call a fourth cone in RI and

886
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:52,990
they're able to pick up greater shades

887
00:39:59,760 --> 00:39:56,320
of colors and tones and use than others

888
00:40:03,750 --> 00:39:59,770
can and it just goes big basically back

889
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:03,760
down to an extra cone so I did the test

890
00:40:10,290 --> 00:40:06,730
and I could see all 35 shades that word

891
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:10,300
as well yeah you know I don't have that

892
00:40:17,330 --> 00:40:13,810
but I have my I picks up especially on

893
00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:17,340
my peripheral vision picks up movement

894
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:22,120
it and and I I mean I see stuff that a

895
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:24,190
lot of people wouldn't see out of their

896
00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:27,760
peripheral vision because it might for

897
00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:30,220
some reason my I picks up you know

898
00:40:33,309 --> 00:40:32,740
movement my daughter says that's the

899
00:40:37,209 --> 00:40:33,319
hunt

900
00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:37,219
in me I don't know but but it but I've

901
00:40:42,009 --> 00:40:40,430
known that for all my life that I see

902
00:40:44,979 --> 00:40:42,019
things out of the corner of my eye I

903
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:44,989
don't think i have that cone but that's

904
00:40:51,729 --> 00:40:47,569
just a characteristic of the division so

905
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:51,739
i could see that sure yeah not all of us

906
00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:53,569
have the same kind of vision now I've

907
00:40:58,509 --> 00:40:55,180
got a good friend amaan who's colorblind

908
00:40:59,769 --> 00:40:58,519
only in the reds and greens and then

909
00:41:02,949 --> 00:40:59,779
there's other people that you know are

910
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:02,959
completely colorblind so you know we

911
00:41:09,939 --> 00:41:06,319
didn't all get dealt the same card when

912
00:41:13,299 --> 00:41:09,949
it came to vision and doesn't ask them

913
00:41:14,949 --> 00:41:13,309
to do with it yeah absolutely I i would

914
00:41:17,049 --> 00:41:14,959
agree one hundred percent with that i

915
00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:17,059
think you know that there are certain

916
00:41:24,009 --> 00:41:20,390
it's like you know I i don't i don't

917
00:41:26,109 --> 00:41:24,019
think i have ESP but i do have a little

918
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:26,119
voice of my shoulder now i've been told

919
00:41:30,759 --> 00:41:27,920
that that's you know equivalent I don't

920
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:30,769
know but I you know I listen to that

921
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:33,529
little voice every once in a while but

922
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:36,170
he starts the chatter and but I do

923
00:41:42,219 --> 00:41:37,609
believe there are people out there that

924
00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:42,229
I have very very sensitive in certain

925
00:41:48,939 --> 00:41:45,380
areas and ESP could very well be one of

926
00:41:50,979 --> 00:41:48,949
them as well with being able to see

927
00:41:53,949 --> 00:41:50,989
those those shapes having that type of

928
00:41:56,289 --> 00:41:53,959
eyesight yeah it's probably the reason

929
00:41:59,170 --> 00:41:56,299
I'm an artist is because I've been

930
00:42:00,969 --> 00:41:59,180
gifted in terms of sight and and being

931
00:42:04,089 --> 00:42:00,979
able to recognize patterns and in

932
00:42:05,410 --> 00:42:04,099
repetition and things like that and so

933
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:05,420
forth you know I'm a very creative

934
00:42:11,289 --> 00:42:09,529
person and I can create but i can also d

935
00:42:14,709 --> 00:42:11,299
create i can i can break things down

936
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:14,719
visually that's what I'm trained in

937
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:17,359
that's what I do so that's really helped

938
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,609
out a lot I think that's what I've been

939
00:42:22,989 --> 00:42:21,440
able to you know in a way we

940
00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:22,999
reverse-engineer the way these things

941
00:42:26,949 --> 00:42:25,369
move is by watching so much in videos

942
00:42:29,019 --> 00:42:26,959
over the years and say okay this is

943
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:29,029
going here this is popping off here and

944
00:42:33,249 --> 00:42:32,209
this is how they operate so good yes

945
00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:33,259
there's probably there's probably

946
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:35,479
something to that good good segue I was

947
00:42:39,339 --> 00:42:37,609
going to get into Sean you know what

948
00:42:41,949 --> 00:42:39,349
type of propulsion system to the user

949
00:42:44,529 --> 00:42:41,959
operate and you know do you ever hear

950
00:42:46,779 --> 00:42:44,539
these in the sky and did they give off

951
00:42:51,999 --> 00:42:46,789
any type of sound like a you know a

952
00:42:54,549 --> 00:42:52,009
plane or a jet yeah sometimes um in the

953
00:42:57,339 --> 00:42:54,559
first year I'd come out early in the

954
00:42:58,989 --> 00:42:57,349
morning before sunrise and I had heard

955
00:43:02,229 --> 00:42:58,999
some things in the sky that sounded like

956
00:43:06,009 --> 00:43:02,239
fans like high-pitched fans but that

957
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:06,019
only happened twice but over the last

958
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:08,209
two years I'd say when I know there's a

959
00:43:12,749 --> 00:43:10,910
big big boy up above sometimes you'll

960
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:12,759
hear what sounds like a jet rumble and

961
00:43:19,479 --> 00:43:15,890
if you had a check done over 30,000 feet

962
00:43:21,579 --> 00:43:19,489
you'd hear you know yeah for 30 seconds

963
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:21,589
or so but this last 50 minutes half an

964
00:43:27,130 --> 00:43:23,839
hour Wow and the only thing above is

965
00:43:29,409 --> 00:43:27,140
just you know a big old field plowed you

966
00:43:32,349 --> 00:43:29,419
know he quotes the other thing I've

967
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:32,359
heard and I don't know if this is

968
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:36,319
connected or not but there this trumpet

969
00:43:40,929 --> 00:43:38,689
sounds that people have recorded in last

970
00:43:44,049 --> 00:43:40,939
year's none from the sky I have not

971
00:43:46,749 --> 00:43:44,059
heard that but I have heard the scraping

972
00:43:48,939 --> 00:43:46,759
sound and I know Linda Moulton Howe

973
00:43:51,459 --> 00:43:48,949
talked about this as well great and I

974
00:43:53,229 --> 00:43:51,469
heard it once and I thought well that's

975
00:43:55,329 --> 00:43:53,239
got to be construction around here

976
00:43:56,890 --> 00:43:55,339
somewhere yeah even though it seems like

977
00:43:59,229 --> 00:43:56,900
it's coming from the sky right it sounds

978
00:44:02,289 --> 00:43:59,239
like it sounds like a twisting metal

979
00:44:04,899 --> 00:44:02,299
really loud yeah like a beggar yeah yeah

980
00:44:06,999 --> 00:44:04,909
yeah and III had heard her description

981
00:44:08,769 --> 00:44:07,009
of it in my description is very close to

982
00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:08,779
hers and that it sounds like if you were

983
00:44:14,499 --> 00:44:12,380
load up a a 5-gallon plastic bucket full

984
00:44:16,209 --> 00:44:14,509
of sand or something heavy and then drag

985
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:16,219
it across the concrete intermittently

986
00:44:20,499 --> 00:44:18,890
what it sounds like and that's

987
00:44:24,579 --> 00:44:20,509
definitely coming from up above and I've

988
00:44:26,109 --> 00:44:24,589
heard that three times now so that's

989
00:44:27,819 --> 00:44:26,119
what i've heard in terms of sound but i

990
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:27,829
haven't been able to capture if any of

991
00:44:32,229 --> 00:44:30,529
the cameras that I've got propulsion

992
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:32,239
systems to so how do you think these are

993
00:44:39,099 --> 00:44:34,130
crafter ramp you know what do they run

994
00:44:42,459 --> 00:44:39,109
on i I really don't know how come the

995
00:44:44,349 --> 00:44:42,469
only thing I could think of to listen to

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Laurieann fenton here hosted the

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